{"id":7983,"date":"2024-02-02T14:33:23","date_gmt":"2024-02-02T09:03:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/02\/a-response-to-geoff-holsclaw-and-likely-others\/"},"modified":"2024-02-02T14:33:23","modified_gmt":"2024-02-02T09:03:23","slug":"a-response-to-geoff-holsclaw-and-likely-others","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/02\/a-response-to-geoff-holsclaw-and-likely-others\/","title":{"rendered":"A Response to Geoff Holsclaw (And Likely Others)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Introduction<\/h2>\n<p>I would like to thank <a href=\"http:\/\/geoffreyholsclaw.net\/about\/about\/\">Geoff Holsclaw<\/a> for taking the time to write a review of my latest book <em><a href=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/books\/how-the-bible-actually-works\/\">How the Bible Actually Works<\/a><\/em>. The review appears in two parts. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2019\/08\/06\/reviewing-pete-enns-is-the-bible-just-humans-updating-god-as-it-goes\/\">Part 1<\/a> covers the book\u2019s contents, and I want to commend Holsclaw\u2019s efforts there. He did a very good job summarizing the ground that I cover, and I don\u2019t take that for granted. Too often critical reviews falter on this very point. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2019\/08\/19\/reviewing-pete-enns-saving-the-bible-but-losing-god\/\">Part 2<\/a> Holsclaw lays out his disagreements with some of the central conclusions that I draw the book, and it is here that I will focus my comments. <\/p>\n<p>It should be apparent that my response is roughly twice the<br \/>\nlength of Holsclaw\u2019s review. I felt the review was burdened by numerous<br \/>\ntheological assertions with unexamined subtexts beneath them that needed to be<br \/>\nteased out a bit. Also, Holsclaw\u2019s views no doubt mirror those of other Evangelicals,<br \/>\nand so I am hoping that by going into a bit more detail I might address nuances<br \/>\nthat others might have.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Whole Thing in Two Paragraphs<\/h2>\n<p>Holsclaw is fine in principle with the idea of biblical<br \/>\nwriters reimagining God for their time and place, which is a key theme in my<br \/>\nbook. He is also comfortable agreeing that the Bible contains tensions and<br \/>\ncontradictions. However, Holsclaw is a pastor and theologian, and as such he feels<br \/>\nthat I as a biblical scholar do not go far enough in affirming the revelatory<br \/>\nnature of Scripture. As a consequence, God is left out of the picture, which is<br \/>\ntheologically inadequate and pastorally detrimental.<\/p>\n<p>In response, I feel that Holsclaw makes some points that could generate brisk discussion, but on the whole, his theological and pastoral critique of the book raises more theological and practical questions than they answer[JB1]. At numerous points, Holsclaw makes theological assertions that open themselves up to serious scrutiny. A substantive theological and pastoral engagement with the phenomena of Scripture will have to do better than what we see here in this review. <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Speaking as a Theologian and Pastor<\/h2>\n<p>From the very beginning of the review and continuing at a<br \/>\nsteady clip throughout, Holsclaw clearly wants to drive home the fact that he<br \/>\nis a pastor and a theologian. \u00a0His<br \/>\nresponse to <em>HTBAW <\/em>is, he tells us,<br \/>\ninformed by what he feels those vocations require, namely keeping ever before<br \/>\nus the revelatory nature of Scripture wherein God \u201cspeaks.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>To illustrate, after affirming my language of reimagining God, Holsclaw immediately adds, \u201cBut what exactly has God <strong><em>revealed<\/em><\/strong> to us (to ask a theologian\u2019s question) and what does it mean for us (to ask a pastor\u2019s question)? \u201c<\/p>\n<p>I have to admit, this rhetoric put me on guard. In my experience, I too often hear Evangelical critics in particular claiming this higher ground as if, in and of itself, holding such constitutes an<em> argument<\/em>, which it doesn\u2019t (see below). I find that tactic distracting, if not off-putting, and creates more clutter than clarity. Indeed, a fair amount of my response stems from a need to address this problem.<\/p>\n<p>It is not the case, as Holsclaw presents the matter, that he<br \/>\nis bringing to the table theological and pastoral concerns and I am not. We are<br \/>\njust driven by <em>different<\/em> theological<br \/>\nand pastoral concerns. My writing, including <em>HTBAW<\/em>, has been affirmed by plenty with theological training. And<br \/>\nmany pastors have told me they are thrilled with <em>HTBAW<\/em>, are using it in their congregations, and have invited me to<br \/>\ncome speak to their churches and even synods.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>I only (reluctantly) raise the point to remind us, and<br \/>\nHolsclaw, that appealing to his vocations does not validate his critique. Knowing<br \/>\nthat he is a pastor and theologian is not particularly revealing. More<br \/>\npertinent to the discussion is knowing what <em>kind<br \/>\n<\/em>of theologian and pastor he is. <\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw\u2019s theological turf and notions of pastoral duty are<br \/>\nnot standards, simply givens in the discussion, but are as subject to criticism<br \/>\nas any other. And while the angle he is taking on the phenomena of Scripture<br \/>\nwill be satisfying theologically and pastorally to <em>some, <\/em>to others, who have perhaps heard these answers before, it<br \/>\nwill not. They have other questions entirely. I have been conversing for many<br \/>\nyears with pilgrims who are trying to recover spiritually from their<br \/>\nconservative backgrounds and find other perspectives life-giving. They would<br \/>\nnot be as captivated by the particular kind of theological and pastoral matters<br \/>\nHolsclaw keeps pressing. <\/p>\n<p>To illustrate further, near the end of his review Holsclaw summarizes succinctly his theological and pastoral concerns with my view of Scripture:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p><strong>Theologically<\/strong>, <em>if God has sp<\/em>oken<em> then<\/em> we can and should engage in theology, the task of asking who God is, what God is like, and how all this connects with all that is. <em>If<\/em> <em>God has not spoken then<\/em> all we have is cultural anthropology, an ancient text, university research projects, and the projection of human values onto divine fantasies.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p><strong>Pastorally<\/strong>, <em>if God has spoken then<\/em> we are not alone, abandoned within the angst of a life where all meaning, purpose, and significance is really just up to us. <em>If God has spoken then <\/em>there really is something stable and reliable in the world.\u00a0 <em>If<\/em> God has spoken <em>that<\/em> [sic] life isn\u2019t just <em>up to me <\/em>to figure out. <em>If God hasn\u2019t spoken, then <\/em>pastorally my advice is to sleep in and skip my next sermon and don\u2019t worry about that daily devotion time anymore. [italics my emphasis]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Holsclaw\u2019s rhetoric here is overblown, and the conclusions raise<br \/>\nsome blazing theological and pastoral red flags for me. <\/p>\n<p>First, note that Holsclaw has not actually answered his own question \u201cHas God Spoken?\u201d He has only expressed <em>what he thinks is at stake if God has or hasn\u2019t spoken<\/em>. I\u2019ve never warmed up to this kind of \u201cif-then\u201d theological argument\u2014that position X <em>must<\/em> be false, since it undermines some imagined necessary outcome Y. This is not an argument one can respond to\u2014because it is not an argument but an expression of a belief that is not subject to discussion. Expressing one\u2019s beliefs is fine under other circumstances, but as a counterpoint, it is not at all persuasive.<\/p>\n<p>Second, my experience yields the exact opposite observation.<br \/>\nI know people\u2014many people\u2014whose spiritual lives are or have been in a process<br \/>\nof deep recovery because of the unyielding theological categories their<br \/>\nintelligence and their experience could no longer support, but who were told by<br \/>\npastors and theologians that their faith depends on their ignoring their experience<br \/>\nand falling back on the very formulations that fueled their crisis to begin<br \/>\nwith. They have found greater explanatory power, and therefore renewed faith, through<br \/>\nother models. <\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw\u2019s theological models of Scripture and pastoral care out of which he critiques <em>HTBAW<\/em> are not universal. He is welcome to have them, but as a point of theological debate, they will carry no weight. We are left to trading anecdotes.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Losing the God Connection. <\/h2>\n<p>Holsclaw\u2019s pastoral and theological concerns are focused almost<br \/>\nentirely on one issue: my failure to say something about divine revelation <em>in addition to<\/em> the biblical authors<br \/>\nreimagining God. As he puts it, I have \u201ctotally left aside\u201d that issue and even<br \/>\n\u201crefuse\u201d to address it. In doing so, I have \u201cturned the Bible into what humans<br \/>\nreimagine God to be,\u201d which is nothing less than a \u201clie in the big picture.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>That last bit of unguarded hyperbole notwithstanding, Holsclaw\u2019s<br \/>\nassessment of my work is a product of the <em>kind<\/em><br \/>\nof theology he embraces. There are, after all, as I\u2019m sure he knows, different theological<br \/>\nmodels for understanding the nature of revelation. I wish Holsclaw had taken<br \/>\nsome time to define\u2014even briefly\u2014what he means by \u201crevelation,\u201d given its<br \/>\nimportance to Holsclaw, and how that view helps address the phenomena of<br \/>\nScripture.<\/p>\n<p>Judging from the review as a whole, however, I am confident<br \/>\nthat Holsclaw\u2019s view fits comfortably within familiar Evangelical parameters. I<br \/>\nalso surmise, though Holsclaw does not use the term, that his deeper concern is<br \/>\nto protect biblical authority (a clear subtext of his two summary statements<br \/>\nquoted in the previous section), which is the logical corollary to his<br \/>\nunderstanding of revelation.<\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw is correct that I don\u2019t address directly the matter<br \/>\nof revelation. And the reason is that it simply doesn\u2019t hold for me the level<br \/>\nof theological and pastoral interest it does for Holsclaw. Nor does it need to.<\/p>\n<p>Oh sure, it \u201cinterests\u201d me as a topic of lively speculative discussion or my own internal musings. In fact, truth be told, I \u201cimagine\u201d all the time what revelation might mean and how it might work. I even wrote a book about it in 2005,<a href=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/shop\/inspiration-incarnation\/\"> <\/a><em><a href=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/shop\/inspiration-incarnation\/\">Inspiration and Incarnation<\/a><\/em> where I adopt an incarnational model as a means of framing the discussion.<\/p>\n<p>But as for <em>HTBAW, <\/em>I<br \/>\nsimply had no interest in meshing together what I see the biblical writers<br \/>\ndoing with what God might be doing to them, or in them, or with them, or<br \/>\nalongside them. This was no oversight on my part, nor was it a \u201crefusal\u201d to<br \/>\naddress a central topic of theological and pastoral urgency.<\/p>\n<p>I truly hope we can all agree that any doctrine of<br \/>\nrevelation is by its nature speculative and hard to demonstrate when push comes<br \/>\nto shove. I am well within my theological and pastoral charge to work through<br \/>\nthe biblical phenomena (as best as I can, always looking out for my own hidden<br \/>\nagenda) and describe what I see from a cultural point of view without also<br \/>\naccounting for how all this fits together in the mind of God who was revealing<br \/>\ninformation to the biblical writers and then to us.<\/p>\n<p>It is clear that Holsclaw sees this failure of mine as the heart<br \/>\nand soul of his critique, but I simply don\u2019t feel the force of it. I do not<br \/>\naccept Holsclaw\u2019s presumption that divine revelation is a non-negotiable, even<br \/>\nself-evident, norm by which the phenomena of Scripture need to be viewed. <\/p>\n<p>I might, though . . . were he to demonstrate how the messy<br \/>\nphenomena of Scripture (which he acknowledges) would <em>inform and shape<\/em> his doctrine of Scripture rather than be adjusted<br \/>\nby it. Or perhaps, were he to indicate how his doctrine of revelation does a<br \/>\nbetter job of <em>accounting<\/em> for the<br \/>\nbiblical phenomena I lay out in the book, such as: contradictory portrayals of<br \/>\nGod, the many conflicts between the law codes in Torah though they are all<br \/>\ngiven by God in Mt. Sinai to Moses, the conflicting histories of Israel\u2019s<br \/>\nkings, various and sundry moral and historical problems, the unexpected nature<br \/>\nof the Messiah dying for others and then rising\u2014and more. <\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m sure Holsclaw <em>acknowledges<\/em><br \/>\nthese phenomena, but he is obligated at this point not simply to talk the talk<br \/>\nbut walk the walk, to <em>explain <\/em>how inserting<br \/>\na doctrine of revelation into this discussion would actually add to our<br \/>\nunderstanding of the biblical phenomena\u2014an explanation that would certainly<br \/>\npenetrate deeper than the \u201cif-then\u201d scenarios he posed above.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>But what concerned me most\u2014if I may say, for both<br \/>\ntheological and pastoral reasons\u2014was Holsclaw\u2019s unguarded rhetoric in the<br \/>\nfollowing: <\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>Emphasizing the process of \u201creimagining God\u201d might sound like a way to save the Bible from fundamentalism, to loosen the stranglehold of literalism and absolutism, and to appreciate the diversity within the Bible.\u00a0 And those are good things.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p><strong><em>But without a doctrine of Scripture\/revelation (a theologian\u2019s question) we haven\u2019t really saved our connection with God (a pastor\u2019s question<\/em><\/strong>). [my emphasis]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>In<br \/>\nother words, however correct it might be to think of the Bible as an ancient,<br \/>\nambiguous, and diverse collection of stories that represent how people of old<br \/>\nreimagined God for their here and now, without a doctrine of Scripture\/revelation<br \/>\n<em>our connection with God is not \u201csaved,\u201d<\/em><br \/>\nor to put it more directly, <em>that<br \/>\nconnection is lost.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I<br \/>\nhope Holsclaw is just aiming for a bit of drama here, but at face value, this<br \/>\nclaim is unsettling and illustrates a type of biblio-centrism for which Evangelicalism<br \/>\nis rightly criticized. Evangelicals tend to walk that thin line between respect<br \/>\nfor Scripture and idolizing it. If Holsclaw has not crossed that line, for me<br \/>\nhe is coming too close for comfort. <\/p>\n<p>Let me say succinctly, that a <em>doctrine of revelation<\/em> does not save our connection with God. That<br \/>\nis what the Spirit of God does <em>working in<br \/>\nand through Scripture (along with other means of grace) without the false sense<br \/>\nof security offered by any \u201cdoctrine of revelation.\u201d <\/em>I truly hope Holsclaw<br \/>\ndoesn\u2019t think the people of God need a functional definition of revelation in<br \/>\norder for the Spirit to meet us. I can think of not a few Christian traditions<br \/>\nthat wouldn\u2019t quite know how to respond constructively to a claim like that.<\/p>\n<p>I happen to love the Bible and I think of it as, among other things, a non-negotiable \u201cmeans of grace\u201d that gives me language, concepts, and a touchstone for articulating my experience of Christ. And for the record, I at least acknowledge in <em>HTBAW<\/em> the Spirit\u2019s presence and involvement in Scripture, even if only in a general sense. In several places in the book, I say that Scripture\u2019s antiquity, ambiguity, and diversity are not problems to be solved but reflect God\u2019s \u201cdesign\u201d and as such God\u2019s invitation to us to walk the path of wisdom. <\/p>\n<p>God is not \u201clost\u201d because I do not fold into my view the mysterious inner-workings of revelation. God just shows up in, with, though (whatever) the human reflections of the biblical authors as we approach the text in our full humanity. Of course, I can\u2019t demonstrate how that works (!) or prove that I am right (!), but that is <em>where I see Scripture itself pointing. <\/em>I do <em>not<\/em> see Scripture pointing to an overarching \u201cdoctrine of revelation.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw acknowledges these same pointers (that biblical<br \/>\nauthors <em>do<\/em> reimagine God), but how<br \/>\ndoes <em>he<\/em> see <em>those pointers<\/em> <em>pointing him<br \/>\nto add a notion of revelation? <\/em>Or has he already freighted a discussion of<br \/>\nthe biblical phenomena with a preconceived notion of what Scripture as God\u2019s<br \/>\nword must be? \u00a0I am reminded here of C.<br \/>\nS. Lewis\u2019s quip in <em>Reflections on the<br \/>\nPsalms<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>[There] is one argument [about the nature of Scripture] which we should beware of using [when trying to define the nature of Scripture]: God must have done what is best, this is best, therefore God has done this. For we are mortals and do not know what is best for us, and it is dangerous to prescribe what God must have done\u2013especially when we cannot, for the life of us, see that He has after all done it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Along<br \/>\nthose lines, I suppose I should throw another card on the table: I am very<br \/>\ncomfortable with, and am comforted by, the <em>paradox<br \/>\nof Scripture<\/em> noted by others long before <em>HTBAW<\/em>: Scripture as God\u2019s word comes to us irrevocably through<br \/>\nutterly ordinary means\u2014<strong><em>and that fact has pressing implications for<br \/>\nhow we frame the nature of Scripture.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Over<br \/>\nthe years I\u2019ve collected quotes from theologians and others that articulate<br \/>\nthis paradox. One of my favorites is the following by turn-of-the-century Dutch<br \/>\nCalvinist theologian Herman Bavinck from his <em>Reformed Do<\/em>g<em>matics:<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>[How we think of Scripture] is the working out and application of the central fact of revelation: the incarnation of the Word. The Word has become flesh, and the word has become Scripture; these two facts do not only run parallel but are most intimately connected. Christ became flesh, a servant, without form or comeliness, the most despised of human beings; he descended to the nethermost parts of the earth and became obedient even to death on the cross. So also the word, the revelation of God, entered the world of creatureliness, the life and history of humanity, in all the human forms of dream and vision, of investigation and reflection, right down into that which is humanly weak and despised and ignoble\u2026. All this took place in order that the excellency of the power\u2026of Scripture, may be God\u2019s and not ours.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Bavinck, working with what can rightly be called an incarnational model of Scripture (as Christ the Word is human\/divine, so too is the Bible \u201chuman\/divine\u201d). He sees the Bible\u2019s through-and-through messy, broken, frail form <em>as precisely what brings us to \u201cconnect\u201d with God<\/em>\u2013the very thing Holsclaw is so fearful of losing. It is the very \u201chumility of Scripture\u201d that gives us glimpses of what God is like\u2014a God who \u201cin coming vulnerably into creation [in Jesus] . . . is not giving up the characteristics of divinity but most fully manifesting them\u201d (William Placher, Narratives of a Vulnerable God). By speaking of Scripture in terms of the reimagining God as a wisdom quest, I am simply attempting to catch, as I see it, something of Scripture\u2019s humility and God\u2019s vulnerability. <\/p>\n<p>Bavink is hardly a liberal who has lost his moorings. His thoughts here, as well as those of others I have come across, have been helpful to me <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/734491\/Preliminary_Observations_on_an_Incarnational_Model_of_Scripture\">theologically and pastorally<\/a>. And yet none of these views represents the final word (no theology can claim that). I have some quibbles and disagreements with all of them, including the quote above\u2014not the least of which is my annoyance that these authors do not always follow through with the implications of their insights. <\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, the <em>kind<\/em><br \/>\nof doctrine of Scripture Bavinck articulates here thoroughly revels in Scripture\u2019s<br \/>\n\u201chumility\u201d and <em>incorporates <\/em>that humility<br \/>\n<em>positively<\/em> into his doctrine of<br \/>\nScripture rather than tacking on a notion of revelation from who knows where. <\/p>\n<p>At the very least the paradox of Scripture should temper Holsclaw\u2019s theological\/pastoral claim that, though I may have \u201csaved the Bible\u201d from fundamentalism, I have done so while \u201closing God.\u201d No . . . only if your God is bound to a particular formulation of a doctrine of Scripture that keeps its humility at a distance. And of course, Holsclaw can disagree with all this, but that is not the end of the discussion; it is only the beginning.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Nothing New to See Here<\/h2>\n<p>Early in his review, Holsclaw reminds us (as pastor and theologian) that struggling with Scripture is not a recent invention in the history of the church, and as a general observation, he is absolutely correct. I am less optimistic, however, about where he goes with this observation:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p><strong><em>So as a pastor and a theologian<\/em><\/strong>, I want to say, \u201cWelcome to all you tired and weary, and you who need rest from a disappointing, constrictive, and confusing view of the Bible. Come out of your narrow fundamentalism, not into a loss of faith, but into a wider faith, a broad Church tradition that has honestly grappled with these issues for two millennia. [Emphasis original]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>To be sure, the history of Christian interpretation on the<br \/>\nwhole has much to offer Evangelicals struggling with Scripture through the hermeneutical<br \/>\nlens they inherited from the Protestant Reformation. I have seen time and time<br \/>\nagain how simply being exposed to the rich and diverse history of<br \/>\npre-Reformation interpretation is a breath of fresh air for many who are \u201ctired<br \/>\nand weary.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, Holsclaw\u2019s sentiment here strikes me as<br \/>\ntoo sweepingly generous and uncritical an assessment of the \u201cbroad Church<br \/>\ntradition.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>I often see appeals to what is also called the \u201cGreat<br \/>\nTradition,\u201d especially among Evangelicals who, for instance, have discovered<br \/>\nOrthodoxy as a promising way out of the problems that plague Evangelicalism.<br \/>\nAnd let me say again that serious students of Scripture should avail themselves<br \/>\nof the breadth of Christian thought, if anything to learn how to de-center<br \/>\ntheir own theologies. <\/p>\n<p>But I do not think that the \u201cbroad Church tradition\u201d has<br \/>\ndone quite so good or complete a job of \u201chonestly grappling with these issues<br \/>\nfor two millennia\u201d as Holsclaw seems to intimate.\u00a0\u00a0 There are many issues today that the Church has<br \/>\nnot grappled with at all, and not all its grappling has been necessarily<br \/>\nhelpful, or (to state the obvious) achieved any sort of unanimity.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw seems to be telling his worried readers simply to join the club, for the answers to their questions eventually are found therein. I hope that\u2019s <em>not<\/em> what he is saying. If all he is saying is that the broad Church tradition welcomes deep and honest discussion that could potentially redirect, adjust, or even reform our thinking, even on such key points as the nature of revelation, then perhaps there is a place even for <em>HTBAW <\/em>at that table.<\/p>\n<p>The grapplings with Scripture throughout the history of the<br \/>\nchurch are culturally shaped iterations of Christian thought. Theologians of<br \/>\nthe 2<sup>nd<\/sup> through 4<sup>th<\/sup> centuries, for example, were <em>reimagining the God of old through the<br \/>\nlens of the philosophical heritage of Greco-Romanism. <\/em>And I would<br \/>\nexpect nothing else\u2014this was their world. But it is not ours.<\/p>\n<p>To be in <em>conversation<\/em><br \/>\nwith that profound past is simply good common sense, and as I said rewarding<br \/>\nand even life-giving for some, but that does not relieve us of the<br \/>\nresponsibility\u2013what I call in the book our \u201csacred responsibility\u201d\u2013of also<br \/>\ndoing theology here and now, <em>which might<br \/>\nmean having to put things differently when addressing the unique challenges of<br \/>\nour day.<\/em> Saying so is not a dismissal of earlier voices but a commitment to<br \/>\nowning our own.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t see the \u201cbroad Church tradition\u201d being a place where our questions can safely come to rest. Rather it challenges is to face the inevitability of accepting this \u201csacred responsibility\u201d as well.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">If a Claim is Trans-historical Does that Make it Revelation?<\/h2>\n<p>In the section entitled <strong>\u201cStaking a Claim, not Reimagining One,\u201d <\/strong>Holsclaw asserts that, as revelation, the Bible \u201cdrives some stakes in the ground beyond the right now of culturally engaged wisdom informed reimagining.\u201d He supports this claim by citing John 1:1 and 14 of John\u2019s prologue and Hebrews 1:1-3.<\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw rightly states the John 1:1 is a reimagining of<br \/>\nGenesis 1, and v. 14 of the tabernacle. He also acknowledges that John\u2019s act of<br \/>\nreimagining God reflects the \u201chere and now of a contingently cultural moment.\u201d<br \/>\nThis is promising, but he adds quickly that these culturally conditioned acts<br \/>\nof reimagining God <em>nevertheless<br \/>\n\u201ctranscend history,\u201d<\/em> meaning there is something more happening here than John<br \/>\nmerely reimagining. God must be revealing something somehow in addition to this<br \/>\nact of reimagining.<\/p>\n<p>I am not at all sure how one can acknowledge the human act<br \/>\nof reimagining as also an act of revelation. Explaining that would take a lot<br \/>\nof fleshing out. But more to my point here, I am puzzled why Holsclaw thinks<br \/>\nthat John\u2019s trans-historical claim <em>necessarily<br \/>\n<\/em>indicates divine revelation.<\/p>\n<p>For one thing, the very heart of John\u2019s trans-historical<br \/>\nutterance lies in his dependence on Neo-Platonism\u2019s notion of the transcendent <em>logos <\/em>(\u201cword\u201d). John\u2019s trans-historical<br \/>\nclaim about Jesus is more than tangentially a product of his time and place. <\/p>\n<p>Of course, John sees <em>Jesus<\/em><br \/>\nas that <em>logos<\/em>, but on what basis can<br \/>\nHolsclaw say with such confidence that <em>this<br \/>\nclaim<\/em> can only come to John through direct divine revelation? Rather, John might<br \/>\nsimply be applying the language of the divine logos to Jesus to express his<br \/>\nChristian faith in that \u201ccontingently cultural moment.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>John\u2019s unique twist is that this <em>logos<\/em> \u201cbecame flesh and lived among us\u201d (John 1:14). But did <em>this <\/em>come to him through revelation? John<br \/>\nis not the first Christian writer to claim that Jesus is \u201cGod with us.\u201d That<br \/>\nnotion came to him from antecedent Christian tradition, did it not? <\/p>\n<p>I am not at all clear why Holsclaw would think that a trans-historical<br \/>\nclaim is a mark of revelation. We see for example in the religious literature<br \/>\nof the Second Temple Period, particularly the Pseudepigrapha, all sorts of<br \/>\ntrans-historical claims. Are these trans-historical claims also necessary<br \/>\nindications of divine revelation? Or what about such claims made by every<br \/>\nreligion of the ancient Mediterranean going back three millennia or so? Or does<br \/>\nthis hold only in the Bible?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not saying that the Spirit of God is absent in John\u2019s<br \/>\nprologue. All I\u2019m saying is that we have no idea what role the Spirit plays.<br \/>\nThis is one reason why I have leaned toward an \u201cincarnational\u201d model of<br \/>\ninspiration: it allows for mystery without feeling the pressure of fleshing<br \/>\nthat out (pardon the pun), and it does not try to do a theological circumnavigation<br \/>\nof historically rooted explanations for why the Bible does what it does.<\/p>\n<p>Rather than trying to resolve in my book what is hardly<br \/>\nself-evident\u2014what exactly God is \u201cdoing\u201d as the Gospel writer is writing. I am<br \/>\nmore than content to respect my limitations without thinking I have to get into<br \/>\nGod\u2019s head first. Echoing Bavinck, for a doctrine of Scripture to have any<br \/>\nexplanatory power, anthropological explanations for biblical phenomena need to<br \/>\nbe given their due weight, not suppressed, or\u2014as I feel Holsclaw is doing\u2014given<br \/>\nlip service to.<\/p>\n<p>The same objection holds for Holsclaw\u2019s use of Hebrews 1:1-3.<br \/>\nHe makes much of the fact that this writer says that God \u201cspoke\u201d first through<br \/>\nthe prophets and now \u201cby his Son.\u201d And so, if I am catching Holsclaw\u2019s meaning,<br \/>\nsuch \u201cspeaking\u201d by God is <em>by its nature<\/em><br \/>\nrevelatory and therefore not simply an act of human imagination. <\/p>\n<p>It is worth noting, though, that by speaking \u201cby his Son,\u201d<br \/>\nGod\u2019s speech is a person, not the Bible, the latter containing diverse<br \/>\ninterpretations of the Son. But more important, as with John 1, it is not at<br \/>\nall clear to me why this statement <em>must <\/em>be<br \/>\nseen as a propositional revelation of God rather than, say, as with John\u2019s<br \/>\nappropriation of the <em>logos, <\/em>an act of<br \/>\nthe writers \u201csanctified imagination\u201d for his time and place. I would like<br \/>\nHolsclaw to articulate, even briefly, why Heb 1:1-3 can be nothing other than a<br \/>\ndemonstration of God\u2019s direct propositional revelation. <\/p>\n<p>Holsclaw overestimates the implications of these passages when he asserts that they \u201cmake trans-historical claims about Jesus, claims that transcend the merely human process of re-imagining God.\u201d He is free to believe that, but not assert it as a given, nor treat the absence of such a claim elsewhere as a failing. <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Reimagining God\u2014But Not <em>Too<\/em> Much<\/h2>\n<p>At more than one point, Holsclaw acknowledges (with qualifications) the value of accepting our \u201csacred responsibility\u201d to reimagine God, just so long as it is not done in a \u201cone-sided\u201d fashion. Similarly, he does not \u201cnecessarily disagree\u201d that I use the language or reimagination to explain inconsistencies in the biblical portrayals of God, or that the history of Christian theology is really successive projects of reimagining the God of the Bible further still.<\/p>\n<p>What Holsclaw seems to mean is that this sacred responsibility to reimagine God must be balanced, so to speak, by the higher controlling notion of biblical revelation. I would contend, however, that by phrasing the problem this way, Holsclaw is revealing that he has not really taken to heart the problematic nature of the biblical phenomena that the language of \u201creimagining\u201d is trying to address. <\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think grafting \u201crevelation\u201d onto the biblical<br \/>\nphenomena balances anything. I am reminded here of the analogous situation of<br \/>\nhow Evangelical theology has sometimes handled evolution vis-\u00e0-vis the creation<br \/>\nof Adam in Genesis 2. I have often heard confident claims that there is no real<br \/>\ntension between evolution and the Bible\u2014<em>provided<br \/>\nwe retain a \u201chistorical Adam<\/em>,\u201d which I\u2019ve always felt was an exercise in<br \/>\nmissing the point. I do not think that one can simply pin the evolutionary tail<br \/>\nonto the Evangelical donkey. <\/p>\n<p>Likewise: contradictions and historical conundrums of the<br \/>\nBible don\u2019t really affect an Evangelical bibliology\u2014provided we manage to retain<br \/>\nthe language of revelation, inspiration, and authority (often further freighted<br \/>\nwith the language of inerrancy). I do not think the biblical phenomena can be<br \/>\nso easily squared with the terminology that Holsclaw wants to keep, not without<br \/>\nsome careful reframing of those concepts, which Holsclaw does not do. As I<br \/>\nasked earlier, how might \u201crevelation\u201d help us with the very contradictions in<br \/>\nScripture Holsclaw affirms?<\/p>\n<p>At any rate, Holsclaw\u2019s affirmation of the language of reimagination<br \/>\nseems to have a ceiling:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>. . .our \u2018sacred responsibility\u2019 isn\u2019t just to continue the reimagining process, but to <em>faithfully witness to these realities as if they are true for the whole world, all of reality.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>But to bear faithful<br \/>\nwitness <em>is<\/em> <em>precisely to accept <\/em>the sacred responsibility of reimagining God,<br \/>\nbecause bearing witness <em>always has a<br \/>\ncontext, is always particularized in time and space, <\/em>including in the Bible.<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cFaithful\u201d does not mean following a theological abstraction. In fact, even in those passages, Holsclaw adduces above, I am seeing the revelation of the <em>mystery of Christ<\/em>, i.e., Christ is the mystery that is revealed. Faithfully witnessing to this paradoxical \u201crevealed mystery\u201d requires embracing our sacred responsibility to imagine how the Spirit is active among us. <\/p>\n<p>The question before us is <em>What will faithful witness-bearing look like here and now<\/em>? <em>How will that witness be articulated as \u201ctrue for the whole world\u201d <\/em>as Holsclaw puts it? Working toward that end is precisely why \u201csacred responsibility\u201d is not a theological liability but a theological and spiritual necessity\u2014not to mention simply unavoidable.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">And My Last Point<\/h2>\n<p>The<br \/>\nreview ends as follows: <\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>Conservatives focus too much on revelation. And Progressives focus too much on wisdom (and\/or love).\u00a0 <em>What we need is both<\/em>. Only then will the church grow up into all maturity in Christ by the power of the Spirit to the glory of the Father. (my emphasis)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I<br \/>\ndisagree. To repeat my earlier point\u2014conservatives don\u2019t focus too much on<br \/>\nrevelation but on <em>particular models<\/em><br \/>\nof revelation. Progressives don\u2019t jettison revelation but conceive of it<br \/>\ndifferently. I don\u2019t think combining somehow conservative and progressive ingredients<br \/>\nwill solve the problem since <em>they are<br \/>\noperating from very different theological starting points<\/em>. We can\u2019t just<br \/>\nduct tape the two together. <\/p>\n<p>I<br \/>\ndon\u2019t think that either theologians or biblicists have a better handle on truth<br \/>\nthan the other. But if I may put yet another card on the table, I believe<br \/>\nHolsclaw and others who would champion this <em>kind<\/em><br \/>\nof theology and pastoral care, will need to reframe, recalibrate\u2014reimagine\u2014<em>how we think of revelation given the rather<br \/>\ncomplex and messy nature of Scripture from a historical point of view.<\/em> <\/p>\n<p>Doing<br \/>\nthat well is how I believe \u201cthe church [will] grow up into all maturity in<br \/>\nChrist by the power of the Spirit to the glory of the Father.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>I appreciate the exchange here and I am grateful for Holsclaw taking the time to engage my book. But in my estimation, the theology of Scripture out of which he critiques <em>How the Bible Actually Works<\/em> is not the theological and pastoral corrective he poses it to be\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/thebiblefornormalpeople.com\/how-the-bible-actually-works-works-a-response-to-geoff-holsclaw-and-likely-others\/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=how-the-bible-actually-works-works-a-response-to-geoff-holsclaw-and-likely-others\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Introduction I would like to thank Geoff Holsclaw for taking the time to write a review of my latest book How the Bible Actually Works. The review appears in two parts. Part 1 covers the book\u2019s contents, and I want to commend Holsclaw\u2019s efforts there. 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