{"id":10793,"date":"2024-02-21T12:19:37","date_gmt":"2024-02-21T06:49:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/21\/did-jesus-know-everything-the-bible-for-normal-people\/"},"modified":"2024-02-21T12:19:37","modified_gmt":"2024-02-21T06:49:37","slug":"did-jesus-know-everything-the-bible-for-normal-people","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/21\/did-jesus-know-everything-the-bible-for-normal-people\/","title":{"rendered":"did Jesus know everything? &#8211; The Bible For Normal People"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/REB.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-7263\" src=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/REB.jpg\" alt=\"REB\" width=\"152\" height=\"236\"\/><\/a>Last week I read a little book by New Testament scholar Raymond E. Brown <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0020840004\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0020840004&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=inspirandinca-20&amp;linkId=DBJ72PF3F6US5VQG\">Jesus: God and Man<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=inspirandinca-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0020840004\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"\/>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a short little book, 2 chapters in fact, each of which first appeared in journals in the mid-1960s, about the time I was going to first grade with my Monkees lunch box.<\/p>\n<p>In the first chapter, Brown looks at whether the New Testament calls Jesus God, and what that even means. I\u2019ll try to get back to that at some point.<\/p>\n<p>In the\u00a0second chapter, Brown answers the question, \u201cHow much did Jesus know?\u201d I simply found what he had to say very interesting and helpful.<\/p>\n<p>The issue lurking in the background for Brown is the common Christian assertion (Brown, who died in 1998, was a Roman Catholic), that Jesus, being divine, knew everything\u2013at least everything of religious importance.<\/p>\n<p>Brown goes through every relevant text in the Gospels and shows how the biblical evidence is a lot more\u2013wait for it\u2013<em>diverse<\/em> than\u00a0can be captured in\u00a0simplistic assertions.<\/p>\n<p>Brown looks at Jesus\u2019s knowledge about ordinary affairs of life, religious\u00a0matters, the future, and his own self-knowledge and of his mission.<\/p>\n<p>In working through these\u00a0categories, Brown shows\u00a0where Jesus is at times ignorant and at times displays superhuman\/extraordinary\u00a0knowledge, at times clear and at times uncertain, and at times expressing himself in\u00a0terms of common expectations of\u00a0the day.<\/p>\n<p>For example, the Gospels include scenes where\u00a0Jesus knows what is happening elsewhere or what others are thinking (e.g., Mark 2:6-8; Mark 11:2; John 1:48-49). But even in these examples (and others Brown gives), we need to be careful, he tells us, \u201cabout any theological assumption that would trace such knowledge to the hypostatic union\u2026\u201d (i.e., the Christian belief that the human Jesus was also fully divine, p. 49).<\/p>\n<p>The Old Testament attributes the same kind of knowledge to Old Testament prophets, like \u201cEzekiel living in Babylon [who] has visions of events occurring in Jerusalem\u201d (p. 49).<\/p>\n<p>In other words, extraordinary knowledge like this is not an argument for Jesus\u2019s divinity, especially since he also displays ignorance of things as well. And those two features\u2013extraordinary knowledge and ignorance\u2013are not mutually incompatible, since\u00a0we see them both in the Old Testament prophets.<\/p>\n<p>In his conclusion, Brown reminds us that his evaluation of the Gospel evidence \u201cdoes nothing to detract from the dignity of Jesus.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>If in the Gospel reports his knowledge seems to have been limited, such limitation would simply show to what depths divine condescension went in the incarnation\u2013it would show just how human was the humanity of Jesus<\/em> (p. 100).<\/p>\n<p>Here again we are reminded of the\u00a0offense and humiliation, indeed the mystery, of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00XNJGOWS\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00XNJGOWS&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=inspirandinca-20&amp;linkId=UGFYSNPGCVCIDHO5\">incarnation<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=inspirandinca-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00XNJGOWS\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"\/>\u2013our\u00a0discomfort, if we\u2019re honest,\u00a0with\u00a0a Jesus who was fully human and<a href=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/II2-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7111\" src=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/II2-1.jpg\" alt=\"I&amp;I2\" width=\"183\" height=\"275\"\/><\/a> therefore participated in the<em> limitations of being human<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Here is Brown\u2019s conclusion to the book, where he addresses a reaction to all this that I\u2019ve heard plenty of times:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>But when all is said and done, the great objection that will be hurled again and again against any exegete (or theologian) who finds evidence that Jesus\u2019 knowledge was limited is the objection that in Jesus Christ there is only one person, a divine person. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>And so, even though the divine person acted through a completely human nature, any theory that Jesus had limited knowledge seems to imply a limitation of the divine person. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Perhaps the best answer to this objection is to call upon Cyril of Alexandria, that Doctor of\u00a0the Church to whom, more than to any other, we are indebted for the great truth of the\u00a0oneness\u00a0of the person in Christ.\u00a0<\/em><em>It was that ultra-orthodox archfoe of Nestorianism (two persons or powers in Christ) who said of Christ,\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>\u201cWe have admired his goodness in that for love of us he has not refused to descend to such a low position as to bear all that belongs to our nature, INCLUDED IN WHICH IS IGNORANCE.\u201d\u00a0<\/em>(my formatting; emphasis original; pp. 101-2).<\/p>\n<p>And then in his epilogue, Brown writes:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>A Jesus who walked through the world\u00a0knowing exactly what the morrow would bring, knowing with certainty that three days after his death\u00a0his\u00a0Father would raise him up, is a Jesus who can arouse our admiration, but still a Jesus far from us.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>He is a Jesus far from mankind that can only hope in the future and believe in God\u2019s goodness, far from a mankind that must face the supreme uncertainty of death with faith but without knowledge of what is beyond.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>On the other hand, a Jesus for whom the future was as such a mystery, a dread, and a hope as it is for us and yet, at the same time a Jesus who would say, \u201cNot my will but yours\u201d\u2013this is a Jesus who could effectively teach us how to live, for this is a Jesus who would have gone through life\u2019s real trials.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Then we would know the full truth of the saying: \u201cNo man can have greater love than this: to lay\u00a0down his life for those he loves\u201d (Jn 15:13), for we would know that he laid down his life with all the agony with which we lay it down. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>We would know that for him the loss of life was, as it is for us, the loss of a great possession, a possession that is outranked only by love.\u201d<\/em> (my formatting; pp. 104-5).<\/p>\n<p>For Brown, much is at stake theologically for Jesus\u00a0<em>not<\/em> knowing everything. I\u2019m with Brown on this.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/thebiblefornormalpeople.com\/did-jesus-know-everything\/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=did-jesus-know-everything\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week I read a little book by New Testament scholar Raymond E. Brown Jesus: God and Man. It\u2019s a short little book, 2 chapters in fact, each of which first appeared in journals in the mid-1960s, about the time I was going to first grade with my Monkees lunch box. In the first chapter, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10794,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":[],"jnews_primary_category":[]},"categories":[44],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10793"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10793"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10793\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10794"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10793"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10793"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10793"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}