{"id":10706,"date":"2024-02-20T20:47:37","date_gmt":"2024-02-20T15:17:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/20\/faith-without-expecting-something-in-return\/"},"modified":"2024-02-20T20:47:37","modified_gmt":"2024-02-20T15:17:37","slug":"faith-without-expecting-something-in-return","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cccfornews.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/20\/faith-without-expecting-something-in-return\/","title":{"rendered":"Faith, Without Expecting Something in Return"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>I\u2019m not sure why I\u2019m thinking about this, but here it goes.<\/p>\n<p>What does faith in God look like when you\u2019re not thinking in terms of something you get in return?<\/p>\n<p>Does that make sense?<\/p>\n<p>What if we lived a life of faith without thinking of future\u00a0outcomes? What if we lived a life of faith in God <em>not\u00a0<\/em>centered on \u201cNow I know what will happen to me if I die,\u201d or \u201cNow I know all my needs I will be cared for, \u201d or \u201cNow I can be happier\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>What if the life of faith were defined more by the experience of the moment, and pleasure, inner peace, and joy of being where you are with the Spirit of God?<\/p>\n<p>Wait, it just hit me. I know why I\u2019m thinking about this. I\u2019ve been looking at the book of Job a lot over the last few months, and I see a similar dynamic at work there. (I also blogged on this <a href=\"https:\/\/peteenns.com\/worshiping-god-because-he-is-god-some-thoughts-on-job-by-choon-leong-seow\/\">a while back<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>In the opening chapters of the book, God is holding what appears to be a heavenly board meeting of divine beings with him at the head. In attendance is a figure referred to as\u00a0<em>ha-satan<\/em>, which is literally translated \u201cThe Accuser\u201d or \u201cThe Adversary.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Don\u2019t let \u201csatan\u201d fool you. Maintain the lower case \/s\/. This isn\u2019t the banished fallen angel, king of the underworld with red tights and pitchfork made famous by medieval theology. He is a divine being, clearly within his right to approach and address\u00a0the divine council, who challenges God\u2019s high view of his servant Job.<\/p>\n<p>The Accuser\u2019s accusation amounts to this: \u201cSure, Job is your faithful servant. But that\u2019s because you\u2019ve been like a helicopter parent making sure he is blessed with goods and family. Take it all away and then we\u2019ll see how faithful he really is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Or, in the Accuser\u2019s own words (Job 1:9-11):<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Does Job fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge about him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But put forth Your hand now and touch all that he has; he will surely curse You to Your face.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In other words, Job is accused of faith in God because of what he gets out of it. (By the way, C.-L. Seow\u2019s brilliant <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0802848958\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0802848958&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=inspirandinca-20&amp;linkId=DO43MS66PGAEVST2\">commentary on Job<\/a>\u00a0hits a home run in fleshing this out!)<\/p>\n<p>So I\u2019m just wondering what it\u00a0would look like to translate that idea to contemporary ideas about faith, namely\u00a0<em>why<\/em> we believe? \u00a0A get-out-of-hell-free card? To ensure a blessed life for years to come? To take away the unpredictability of life knowing that God is \u201cin control?\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Do we believe in God \u201cfor nothing?\u201d<\/h2>\n<p>Are we in it because of the \u201chedge\u201d we want to have around us and our families? Do we stay in it for the promise of some reward?<\/p>\n<p>What would faith look like if we took off the table any sort of guaranteed rewards\u2013or at least tried to live that way?<\/p>\n<p>Just living in the present of\u00a0God\u2019s presence\u2013and that\u2019s good enough.<\/p>\n<p>What\u00a0answer would we give to the Accuser\u2019s question posed to us: \u201cDo\u00a0<em>I\u00a0<\/em>fear God for nothing? What reward\u00a0is keeping me in the game?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I hope that makes some sense. I\u2019m trying my best here.<\/p>\n<p>Chime in if you get what I\u2019m saying and have thought about it some.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/thebiblefornormalpeople.com\/faith-without-expecting-something-in-return\/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=faith-without-expecting-something-in-return\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m not sure why I\u2019m thinking about this, but here it goes. What does faith in God look like when you\u2019re not thinking in terms of something you get in return? Does that make sense? What if we lived a life of faith without thinking of future\u00a0outcomes? 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